Wednesday, September 10, 2014
The 3 Most Unique Temples of All ...
WHAT are the three most uniqueTemples to be found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
They are the Salt Lake Temple, the Jordan River Temple and the Ogden Temple
Why?
1. The Salt Lake Temple is the flagship temple in the church.
It required the longest time to be built (40 years) and includes far more symbolism on its exterior than any other temple.
The Richard Flygare wedding in the Jordan River Temple.
2. The Jordan River Temple is the ONLY church temple ever built that didn't use any church funds for its construction.
Besides land being donated for its construction to the church (representing the only exception since the 1960s where the church accepted donated land with conditions attached -- that a temple would be build there) -- area members donated $15 million (a price estimated before any plans were drawn up).
The temple actually cost less than that to build (probably $9-10 million) and so the unused money funded the temple's complete operating costs for several years.
Also, the Jordan River Temple has six endowment ordinance rooms that can seat 125 church members -- the highest capacity endowment temple in the church.
A painting of the original Ogden Temple by Keith Wilcox.
3. The Ogden Temple was the first temple in the church to feature six ordinance rooms.
In its first month of operation in 1971, the temple did more endowment work than all other Utah temples combined.
It was also the first temple in the U.S. to feature a film to present the endowment, instead of having to move, room-to-room.
In addition, this is the only temple to be torn down and rebuilt, with just the cornerstone left of the original structure.
The "new" Ogden Temple from the west side.
The S.E. corner of the rebuilt Ogden Temple.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Tuesday, August 19, 2014
Meat Eating and the Gospel
IS it OK to eat meat
as an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Yes, in
moderation.
The Church’s
“Word of Wisdom” states:
“Yea, flesh
also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the
use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly.”
“And it is
pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of
cold, or famine.” (Doctrine and Covenants 89:12-13).
It is
interesting to note that there was no comma in verse 12, after the word “used”
until the 1920s.
I have a
copy of a D&C published in 1918 and there is not comma there. Presumably,
B.H. Roberts added the comma, when he added footnotes in later editions.
Since the
word “only” basically used to mean “except” in the 1800s, the comma was
probably warranted, because substituting the word “except” for “only” would
have the verse read like this:
“And it is
pleasing unto me that they should not be used, except in times of winter, or of
cold, or famine.”
Still, the
fact the Lord placed the word “not” into verse 12 is intriguing. Take the word “not”
out and the verse pretty much reads with the meaning that the Lord is pleased
when you eat meats only in winter, cold or times of famine.
So, one
could argue that in today’s world of refrigeration, the winter, cold or famine
references may not apply. It did in Joseph Smith’s time for sure, though …
Notwithstanding,
the accent on the entire verse is on “sparingly” usage for eating meats.
What does “sparingly”
mean?
The Cambridge
Dictionary states the meaning of the word is “using very little of something.”
Indeed, the
very day I decided to write this blog, I found this timely tidbit out there:
In an
article, “What Science Has to Say About Red Meat,” from Yahoo Health News, Aug.
19, 2014, it advised consumers practice moderation in eating meat.
From
increased cancer risk or a higher possibility of heart attack, too much meat is
not a good thing,
However, the
Lord does not advise being a vegetarian either, at least in the context of
preaching publicly NOT to eat meats:
“Any whoso
forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not
ordained of God.” (D&C 49:18).
And, the
Lord also cautioned against wasting meat or killing for pleasure only:
“And wo be
unto man that sheddeth blood or that wasteth flesh and hath no need.” (D&C
49:21).
So, hunting
for sport ONLY is not favored by the Lord.
The “Word of
Wisdom” itself was originally given as a “greeting” and as a principle with the
promise and NOT as a commandment.
Yet, the
avoidance of alcohol, coffee, tea, or tobacco is now accepted as a commandment
to the Saints, from Brigham Young’s time as prophet to today.
The rest of
the Word of Wisdom, including eating meat sparingly, is likely still just good
advice from the Lord.
I can find no General Authority discourses where eating meat is discouraged and all official LDS-sponsored dinners I've been to over the decades have included meat on the menu.
(One must also understand that the "Word of Wisdom" isn't purely about health matters. It is also a way the Lord separates his people from the world, by openly have them act differently, by not drinking coffee, for example.)
(One must also understand that the "Word of Wisdom" isn't purely about health matters. It is also a way the Lord separates his people from the world, by openly have them act differently, by not drinking coffee, for example.)
-In the Millennium, I don’t believe anyone will be eating meats. At the terrestrial world level, animals like the lion will not be meat-eaters, but will lay down with the lamb, safely together. Isaiah 11:7 states that the lion shall eat straw, like the ox, in the millennium.
So, why won’t
man too be a vegetarian then?
Man will eat
only what he raises in the field for his terrestrial world diet (see Isaiah 65:18-23).
(Myself, if I had to kill game or beasts for my own meat now; that prospect alone would make me a hasty vegetarian.)
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Saturday, August 9, 2014
A Temple Ship on the Seven Seas?
This is a 1965 view of New York City and an ocean liner, similar to what the Church was considering purchasing in the late 1960s, for use as a traveling temple.
-Photograph is from Wikipedia Commons.
DURING a visit for official research with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on the second floor of the Church History Building, one of the church employees assisting me stumbled across a rare find --- something that I had never heard of before ...
The Church at one time considered creating a temple on a large ship.
It could sail to countries where there was no temple and offer the blessings of the sacred structure to church members who could reach the coastline ports.
The special ship would feature a celestial room in its center, where normally the large dining room on a cruise ship is. With lodging, water, dining facilities, etc., this idea had merit, as self-contained traveling temple, complete with hotel rooms for temple patrons.
This was a proposal made in the late 1960s.
It never happened, but it was studied. In fact, a suitable ship was available for purchase for $2 million and another $2 million could have made it temple worthy.
Now days, temples are scattered all over the world. So, a sailing temple would likely not be needed today.
A temple on the seven seas ... who knew?
-What doomed this unique idea?
None other than boundary issues.
According to Church policy, temples have to be located inside a stake's boundaries.
Since the temple was roving and could not be tied to any specific stake of the Church, the project was considered not doctrinally correct.
Could they not have made the sailing ship an exception to the stake boundary policy? Yes, but again that didn't happen either.
President Joseph Fielding Smith was said to have studied the idea for a temple ship, but could find no precedent where it could be exempt from the policy of a temple having to be inside a stake. So, he said no to the idea in 1970 and that was it.
So, the "USS Celestial" never set sail.
-For me, there was already a precedent set -- that the Israelites had a roving temple for many decades in the past. They were technically a stake on wheels and that worked way back then.
Sources: Church Archives and Fred Baker, former head of Church Physical Facilities.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
-The Above photograph is from Wikipedia Commons, of a typical ocean liner ship in the mid-1960s, with New York City in the background.
By Lynn Arave
DURING a visit for official research with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on the second floor of the Church History Building, one of the church employees assisting me stumbled across a rare find --- something that I had never heard of before ...
The Church at one time considered creating a temple on a large ship.
It could sail to countries where there was no temple and offer the blessings of the sacred structure to church members who could reach the coastline ports.
The special ship would feature a celestial room in its center, where normally the large dining room on a cruise ship is. With lodging, water, dining facilities, etc., this idea had merit, as self-contained traveling temple, complete with hotel rooms for temple patrons.
This was a proposal made in the late 1960s.
It never happened, but it was studied. In fact, a suitable ship was available for purchase for $2 million and another $2 million could have made it temple worthy.
Now days, temples are scattered all over the world. So, a sailing temple would likely not be needed today.
A temple on the seven seas ... who knew?
-What doomed this unique idea?
None other than boundary issues.
According to Church policy, temples have to be located inside a stake's boundaries.
Since the temple was roving and could not be tied to any specific stake of the Church, the project was considered not doctrinally correct.
Could they not have made the sailing ship an exception to the stake boundary policy? Yes, but again that didn't happen either.
President Joseph Fielding Smith was said to have studied the idea for a temple ship, but could find no precedent where it could be exempt from the policy of a temple having to be inside a stake. So, he said no to the idea in 1970 and that was it.
So, the "USS Celestial" never set sail.
-For me, there was already a precedent set -- that the Israelites had a roving temple for many decades in the past. They were technically a stake on wheels and that worked way back then.
Sources: Church Archives and Fred Baker, former head of Church Physical Facilities.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
-The Above photograph is from Wikipedia Commons, of a typical ocean liner ship in the mid-1960s, with New York City in the background.
Thursday, July 31, 2014
Ogden Utah Temple Tour
The west side of the Ogden Temple, with its reflecting pool.
I went on a tour through the newly renovated Ogden Utah Temple.
Here are my observations/thoughts:
-Fabulous marble floors and lots of dark interior wood. It is like waking inside some heavenly mansion. Seems far more elaborate than the original Ogden Temple.
(This contrast may also mean the Provo Temple will someday be redone like the Ogden Temple. Both the inside and outside of the Ogden Temple were lacking compared to most other temples.)
-The west lobby of the Ogden Temple is very similar to the lobby at the Bountiful Temple.
-Oodles of stained glass windows everywhere (whereas the former Ogden Temple relied on narrow windows and drapes.
-At least 2 of the 6 ordinance/endowment rooms are very, very tiny. Seems like that shortcoming could equal a longer wait for an endowment session, though. Sure, the former Ogden Temple also had six ordinance rooms, but none were undersized.
-This temple has 7 sealing rooms, with some again very, very small ones.
The main, or east entrance to the Ogden Temple.
-This Temple looks to have 2 operating entrances, an east side and a west side. If you enter from the east side, there is a pullout/drop off half-circle off Washington Boulevard at center block. The west entrance will be by far the busier entrance, with all the parking nearest.
-The reflecting pool on the west side of the temple is likely to be a popular photo op.
-We didn't see the regular dressing rooms on the tour. You went through the bridal dressing areas and got a glimpse of the cafeteria, though.
-The cornerstone is now on the southeast side, (I know for a fact the actual cornerstone and time capsule of the original temple were kept intact.) However, the original Ogden Temple's cornerstone was on the NORTHEAST side and so it was moved. Also, the plaque now has the same wording, but is NOT the original plaque from the old temple.
-One BIG disappointment for me was a lack of artwork of any LOCAL scenes. I know the Calgary, Canada Temple has some paintings of area scenes, so does the Brigham City Temple, the Idaho Falls Temple and others.
The Ogden Temple contains at least one waterfall painting, but it is NOT of Waterfall Canyon or the mouth of Ogden Canyon. There may be several paintings of the local Weber or Ogden River, but they were poorly defined, so who can tell for sure? (Ben Lomond Peak would have made a great inside painting, for example.)
Query: Why do some temples rate local paintings and others don't?
-Since much of downtown Ogden around the temple has been revitalized, the entire area has a much brighter look and feel.
-The remodeled Ogden Temple looks MORE like a temple than the previous version, that was like something out of a Star Trek scene. This new Temple looks more like a stately monument pointing to heaven, than one that could blast off (previous version of the temple).
Even non-church members have told me the new version looks like a temple, whereas the former one was simply odd.
The temporary tent to host visitors to the Temple Open House.
-The OGDEN TABERNACLE was also refurbished at the same time as the temple. It has nice blue seats now and the walls in general and especially the balcony walls look redone. Looks more like a 21st Century Tabernacle inside than the previous version.
-Also, the weird Tabernacle seating space at the southwest corner, where pillars blocked views, has been totally deleted, so there is likely LESS seating in the Tabernacle than before, say 50-100 seats less.
-A steeple-less Tabernacle still looks odd -- and not as stately or striking as it could be ...
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
I went on a tour through the newly renovated Ogden Utah Temple.
Here are my observations/thoughts:
-Fabulous marble floors and lots of dark interior wood. It is like waking inside some heavenly mansion. Seems far more elaborate than the original Ogden Temple.
(This contrast may also mean the Provo Temple will someday be redone like the Ogden Temple. Both the inside and outside of the Ogden Temple were lacking compared to most other temples.)
-The west lobby of the Ogden Temple is very similar to the lobby at the Bountiful Temple.
-Oodles of stained glass windows everywhere (whereas the former Ogden Temple relied on narrow windows and drapes.
-At least 2 of the 6 ordinance/endowment rooms are very, very tiny. Seems like that shortcoming could equal a longer wait for an endowment session, though. Sure, the former Ogden Temple also had six ordinance rooms, but none were undersized.
-This temple has 7 sealing rooms, with some again very, very small ones.
The main, or east entrance to the Ogden Temple.
-This Temple looks to have 2 operating entrances, an east side and a west side. If you enter from the east side, there is a pullout/drop off half-circle off Washington Boulevard at center block. The west entrance will be by far the busier entrance, with all the parking nearest.
-The reflecting pool on the west side of the temple is likely to be a popular photo op.
-We didn't see the regular dressing rooms on the tour. You went through the bridal dressing areas and got a glimpse of the cafeteria, though.
-The cornerstone is now on the southeast side, (I know for a fact the actual cornerstone and time capsule of the original temple were kept intact.) However, the original Ogden Temple's cornerstone was on the NORTHEAST side and so it was moved. Also, the plaque now has the same wording, but is NOT the original plaque from the old temple.
-One BIG disappointment for me was a lack of artwork of any LOCAL scenes. I know the Calgary, Canada Temple has some paintings of area scenes, so does the Brigham City Temple, the Idaho Falls Temple and others.
The Ogden Temple contains at least one waterfall painting, but it is NOT of Waterfall Canyon or the mouth of Ogden Canyon. There may be several paintings of the local Weber or Ogden River, but they were poorly defined, so who can tell for sure? (Ben Lomond Peak would have made a great inside painting, for example.)
Query: Why do some temples rate local paintings and others don't?
-Since much of downtown Ogden around the temple has been revitalized, the entire area has a much brighter look and feel.
-The remodeled Ogden Temple looks MORE like a temple than the previous version, that was like something out of a Star Trek scene. This new Temple looks more like a stately monument pointing to heaven, than one that could blast off (previous version of the temple).
Even non-church members have told me the new version looks like a temple, whereas the former one was simply odd.
The temporary tent to host visitors to the Temple Open House.
-The OGDEN TABERNACLE was also refurbished at the same time as the temple. It has nice blue seats now and the walls in general and especially the balcony walls look redone. Looks more like a 21st Century Tabernacle inside than the previous version.
-Also, the weird Tabernacle seating space at the southwest corner, where pillars blocked views, has been totally deleted, so there is likely LESS seating in the Tabernacle than before, say 50-100 seats less.
-A steeple-less Tabernacle still looks odd -- and not as stately or striking as it could be ...
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Saturday, June 21, 2014
Fresh water seas in the Millennium?
This is just my personal opinion, with no real supporting doctrine -- But ....
As I visited and enjoyed the Pacific Ocean recently, I could not help but wonder if the ocean and all the seas will not change to fresh water in the millennium.
I'm just not seeing salt water as a component on a terrestrial world.
I think all sea creatures could be transformed to handle fresh water in a Garden of Eden type environment, just as a lamb and lion can lie down together in peace.
(--Also, on a related note, when the biggest earthquake of all time hits, just before the Second Coming of Christ, I wouldn't want to be on a beach or live anywhere near one. Tidal waves will occur all over the planet when this world-wide earthquake hits.)
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Monday, June 2, 2014
God, Man and the Universe has no Beginning and No End!
Eternity is forever and we, as mortals, cannot grasp that endless concept.
Whenever I try to ponder eternity, my mind rebels and lets me know it can't comprehend that idea.
However, the Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "That which has a beginning will surely have an end, take a ring, it is without beginning or end -- cut it for a beginning place and at the same time you have made an ending place ... so it is with God." ("Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 181.)
Thus, there has always been a God.
Our God, the Father, has his own Father and so forth backward into eternity. There is a plurality of endless Gods.
There's no "Big bang" needed here -- that's man's cop out for understanding.
Somehow, a "God" has always existed. If not, there will be an end.
The universe has always been here in some degree.
Joseph Smith also stated that "God himself could not create himself." And, he stated that the spirit of man has always existed.
(Joseph Smith Teachings, page 354.)
Somehow God can stop light and create matter. Since he can likely also produce endless light, there's endless matter around. He just adds "intelligences," when needed to the mix, to create life, though there may be life to some degree in all matter.
This concept of "no beginning" is what makes my head spin and even rebel at the concept ... it is currently beyond my understanding.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Whenever I try to ponder eternity, my mind rebels and lets me know it can't comprehend that idea.
However, the Prophet Joseph Smith taught: "That which has a beginning will surely have an end, take a ring, it is without beginning or end -- cut it for a beginning place and at the same time you have made an ending place ... so it is with God." ("Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 181.)
Thus, there has always been a God.
Our God, the Father, has his own Father and so forth backward into eternity. There is a plurality of endless Gods.
There's no "Big bang" needed here -- that's man's cop out for understanding.
Somehow, a "God" has always existed. If not, there will be an end.
The universe has always been here in some degree.
Joseph Smith also stated that "God himself could not create himself." And, he stated that the spirit of man has always existed.
(Joseph Smith Teachings, page 354.)
Somehow God can stop light and create matter. Since he can likely also produce endless light, there's endless matter around. He just adds "intelligences," when needed to the mix, to create life, though there may be life to some degree in all matter.
This concept of "no beginning" is what makes my head spin and even rebel at the concept ... it is currently beyond my understanding.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
Thursday, May 8, 2014
The Church will never be huge before the Millennium
The Church Office Building.
THE number of full-time missionaries for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) increased by 41 percent in 2013.
However, the number of converts to the Church increased by just 4 percent in 2013.
Some church members seem troubled, or worried about this disparity.
However, nowhere in the Scriptures does it indicate that the Church will be "large" in the last days.
In fact, the Book of Mormon indicates that the Church will be world-wide in the last days and yet its members "few" because of the wickedness of the world (1 Nephi 14:12).
So, this isn't about "failure" in any way.
It may well be that the Lord is doing one last surge in preaching, before conditions really get bad before the Second Coming.
Eventually, the full-time missionaries will be called home and then the Lord preaches his own sermons with natural disasters (Brigham Young in Journal of Discourses, 8:123).
Just because a missionary may not convert, or baptize someone on their mission doesn't mean he or she is a failure.
Noah likely converted relatively few in his years of preaching (and any he did left by way of the translated City of Enoch).
The Lord gives everyone a chance to hear the truth, though accepting it is becoming an all-too rare occurrence in these, the last days.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
THE number of full-time missionaries for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) increased by 41 percent in 2013.
However, the number of converts to the Church increased by just 4 percent in 2013.
Some church members seem troubled, or worried about this disparity.
However, nowhere in the Scriptures does it indicate that the Church will be "large" in the last days.
In fact, the Book of Mormon indicates that the Church will be world-wide in the last days and yet its members "few" because of the wickedness of the world (1 Nephi 14:12).
So, this isn't about "failure" in any way.
It may well be that the Lord is doing one last surge in preaching, before conditions really get bad before the Second Coming.
Eventually, the full-time missionaries will be called home and then the Lord preaches his own sermons with natural disasters (Brigham Young in Journal of Discourses, 8:123).
Just because a missionary may not convert, or baptize someone on their mission doesn't mean he or she is a failure.
Noah likely converted relatively few in his years of preaching (and any he did left by way of the translated City of Enoch).
The Lord gives everyone a chance to hear the truth, though accepting it is becoming an all-too rare occurrence in these, the last days.
NOTE: This article and all of the NighUntoKolob blog are NOT an official website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are the author's conclusions and opinions only.
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